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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://geoffjennings.com/2009/02/the-future-of-job-boards/comment-page-1/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a Twat if you don&#039;t Tweet.

There&#039;s beginning to be too many Social sites. There will probably be a new one launched next week.

I&#039;ll stick with the Job Board, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a Twat if you don&#8217;t Tweet.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s beginning to be too many Social sites. There will probably be a new one launched next week.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick with the Job Board, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://geoffjennings.com/2009/02/the-future-of-job-boards/comment-page-1/#comment-2020</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction... the best &quot;job board owners network&quot; is run here http://jobboarders.com/

It features job boards from across the globe, with indepth discussions, trends, and a place to sell/buy job boards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230; the best &#8220;job board owners network&#8221; is run here <a href="http://jobboarders.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jobboarders.com/</a></p>
<p>It features job boards from across the globe, with indepth discussions, trends, and a place to sell/buy job boards.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Turnbull - CEO nt3 - CV Database</title>
		<link>http://geoffjennings.com/2009/02/the-future-of-job-boards/comment-page-1/#comment-1992</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Turnbull - CEO nt3 - CV Database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A New Group on LinkedIn in may be appropriate

Please feel free to Join the &quot;Job Board Owners Network&quot;

http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&amp;gid=1785816&amp;trk=anet_ug_hm

Only Job Board Owners will be accepted as Members....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A New Group on LinkedIn in may be appropriate</p>
<p>Please feel free to Join the &#8220;Job Board Owners Network&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&#038;gid=1785816&#038;trk=anet_ug_hm" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&#038;gid=1785816&#038;trk=anet_ug_hm</a></p>
<p>Only Job Board Owners will be accepted as Members&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Maneck Mohan</title>
		<link>http://geoffjennings.com/2009/02/the-future-of-job-boards/comment-page-1/#comment-1987</link>
		<dc:creator>Maneck Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Social media” is the catch phrase of the moment and is differently interpreted depending on who you talk to. In the context of this post it might be good to define social media more tightly.

Are blogs social media? Is facebook social media ? Is Twitter social media?
For a corporate recruiter are blogs, facebook, or twitter more effective than job boards in reaching job seekers? 

I would argue no. I would argue heck no!!

Aside from the obvious scale and volume advantages which Carey mentioned, we must recognize that job boards are specialized digital market places that are essential for businesses today.

Print is a static medium that cannot evolve because it’s offline and we are living in an online world.

Job boards are digital media. The next stage in their evolution is obvious. How hard do you think it is for job boards to become more “social” ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Social media” is the catch phrase of the moment and is differently interpreted depending on who you talk to. In the context of this post it might be good to define social media more tightly.</p>
<p>Are blogs social media? Is facebook social media ? Is Twitter social media?<br />
For a corporate recruiter are blogs, facebook, or twitter more effective than job boards in reaching job seekers? </p>
<p>I would argue no. I would argue heck no!!</p>
<p>Aside from the obvious scale and volume advantages which Carey mentioned, we must recognize that job boards are specialized digital market places that are essential for businesses today.</p>
<p>Print is a static medium that cannot evolve because it’s offline and we are living in an online world.</p>
<p>Job boards are digital media. The next stage in their evolution is obvious. How hard do you think it is for job boards to become more “social” ?</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://geoffjennings.com/2009/02/the-future-of-job-boards/comment-page-1/#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And not a mention of the aggregators! It seems to me that generalist aggregation sites like http://www.jobsites.com.au/ and niche ones like http://www.westjobs.com.au/ offer jobseekers a one-stop-site where they can often find many more jobs than they could on any of the majors - yes even (shudder!!) Seek. A lot of the jobs they list from the more obscure boards or company sites might never otherwise be found by jobseekers.
Re Mike Hawkins closing comment about recruiters and corporates &quot;getting their shit together...&quot; - don&#039;t hold your breath - corporates generally dislike recruiters and use them grudgingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And not a mention of the aggregators! It seems to me that generalist aggregation sites like <a href="http://www.jobsites.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jobsites.com.au/</a> and niche ones like <a href="http://www.westjobs.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.westjobs.com.au/</a> offer jobseekers a one-stop-site where they can often find many more jobs than they could on any of the majors &#8211; yes even (shudder!!) Seek. A lot of the jobs they list from the more obscure boards or company sites might never otherwise be found by jobseekers.<br />
Re Mike Hawkins closing comment about recruiters and corporates &#8220;getting their shit together&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; don&#8217;t hold your breath &#8211; corporates generally dislike recruiters and use them grudgingly.</p>
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		<title>By: mike hawkins</title>
		<link>http://geoffjennings.com/2009/02/the-future-of-job-boards/comment-page-1/#comment-1931</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i still believe that the shift away from job boards will be a long drawn out process, if a process at all. consider how long it has taken to get the candidates from the newspapers to the interent? now most folks i speak to regard me as a freak because i twitter. which is right and wrong. right in that yes, i am freak - fair call and its a cross i bear, but wrong in that expanding social networks are becoming more and more mainstream. bethatasitmay, the shift from jobboards where i can load up a resume and ping it to 50 jobs at the click of a button (or close to) to more labour intensive and cerbrally challenging processes will take time. i&#039;m lazy, the general punter on the street is lazy and status quo rules (not the band).

so i watch with interest more or less form the sidelines. and leave you with something an online expert said to me more than a year ago:

&quot;if the recruitment agencies and the corporates got their shit together they could take down the job boards overnight. problem is, neither of these things will happen.&quot;

prophetic? probably!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i still believe that the shift away from job boards will be a long drawn out process, if a process at all. consider how long it has taken to get the candidates from the newspapers to the interent? now most folks i speak to regard me as a freak because i twitter. which is right and wrong. right in that yes, i am freak &#8211; fair call and its a cross i bear, but wrong in that expanding social networks are becoming more and more mainstream. bethatasitmay, the shift from jobboards where i can load up a resume and ping it to 50 jobs at the click of a button (or close to) to more labour intensive and cerbrally challenging processes will take time. i&#8217;m lazy, the general punter on the street is lazy and status quo rules (not the band).</p>
<p>so i watch with interest more or less form the sidelines. and leave you with something an online expert said to me more than a year ago:</p>
<p>&#8220;if the recruitment agencies and the corporates got their shit together they could take down the job boards overnight. problem is, neither of these things will happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>prophetic? probably!</p>
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		<title>By: Riges Younan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riges Younan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting discussion and in many ways the views I have read all have some credence. 

I think relevance of job boards as a sourcing channel will be driven by the level of sophistication of the people doing the sourcing. In my experience, there are only a handful of recruiting agencies and employers that give their recruiters the time and professional development that allow them to develop multi-channelled sourcing strategies when recruiting.

Another trend that will affect the relevance of job boards is the increased uptake of multi- posting service providers like @Jobadder, which save time and give advertisers greater distribution of job listings. Having run recruiting agencies in the past I am acutely aware that recruiters unfortunately often take the easiest path and that is to pop an ad on SEEK the ‘availability engine” and filter the response to that ad.  What we noticed was often the candidate that the recruiter was interested in was currently in their database anyway. Now, as we know from experience the easiest path is not always the path that gets us the result we are looking for, in fact more often than not it doesn’t. 

I take the view that the traditional job boards like SEEK in Australia will always be included in a multi channel sourcing strategy and other channels like referrals, niche boards, social networks, CV databases etc will compliment the majors.  
However, the pleasing thing to report is that we are witnessing recruiters and HR folk are proactively accessing other tools to compliment what they’ve been doing historically which was list an ad on a job board and prey for the right candidate to arrive on their doorstep.  We are seeing the evolution of the social recruiting phenomena, that is using social media tools like blogs, social networks, referrals, video etc to connect, inform and engage with talent. My view is that this will be the trend going forward.  A great example is this blog that @geoffjennings uses for his recruiting business.

2009/10 will be interesting but for now, @careyeaton your job seems pretty secure :-)

@rigesyounan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting discussion and in many ways the views I have read all have some credence. </p>
<p>I think relevance of job boards as a sourcing channel will be driven by the level of sophistication of the people doing the sourcing. In my experience, there are only a handful of recruiting agencies and employers that give their recruiters the time and professional development that allow them to develop multi-channelled sourcing strategies when recruiting.</p>
<p>Another trend that will affect the relevance of job boards is the increased uptake of multi- posting service providers like @Jobadder, which save time and give advertisers greater distribution of job listings. Having run recruiting agencies in the past I am acutely aware that recruiters unfortunately often take the easiest path and that is to pop an ad on SEEK the ‘availability engine” and filter the response to that ad.  What we noticed was often the candidate that the recruiter was interested in was currently in their database anyway. Now, as we know from experience the easiest path is not always the path that gets us the result we are looking for, in fact more often than not it doesn’t. </p>
<p>I take the view that the traditional job boards like SEEK in Australia will always be included in a multi channel sourcing strategy and other channels like referrals, niche boards, social networks, CV databases etc will compliment the majors.<br />
However, the pleasing thing to report is that we are witnessing recruiters and HR folk are proactively accessing other tools to compliment what they’ve been doing historically which was list an ad on a job board and prey for the right candidate to arrive on their doorstep.  We are seeing the evolution of the social recruiting phenomena, that is using social media tools like blogs, social networks, referrals, video etc to connect, inform and engage with talent. My view is that this will be the trend going forward.  A great example is this blog that @geoffjennings uses for his recruiting business.</p>
<p>2009/10 will be interesting but for now, @careyeaton your job seems pretty secure <img src='http://geoffjennings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@rigesyounan</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Tusing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Tusing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is too early to write the obituary of job boards. If numbers are anything to go by, Australia is currently witnessing a ‘golden age’ of job boards. Around, 245 job boards exist in Australia and new ones are added every day http://destinationtalent.com.au/job-board-report.html .  Sure many job boards go ‘belly up’, but that’s more to do with a company’s business practices and harsh economic conditions than an inherent flaw of the job board model. 

Having said that, I am a firm believer that social media is disruptive to the status quo and will play an increasing role in recruitment. The thing with social media is, you cannot buy ‘attention’ or ‘traffic’, as easily as you can do with job boards. Key ingredients for effectively using social media - authenticity, community, collaboration, and transparency are still almost non-existent in most companies.  It is also time intensive, and requires a significant cultural shift within companies. Done well (geoffjennings.com is a case) it can pay huge dividends. However, for every company who excelled in using social media there are hundreds who aren’t. 

On the other hand, social media has opened up a whole new world for job seekers to brand themselves and seek employment; a group that has not been entirely well served by job boards. I believe that there will always be employers who are willing to buy ‘candidate traffic’ at an attractive price. If job boards have anything to worry about, it’s retaining the attention and trust of job seekers who are suddenly rich with options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is too early to write the obituary of job boards. If numbers are anything to go by, Australia is currently witnessing a ‘golden age’ of job boards. Around, 245 job boards exist in Australia and new ones are added every day <a href="http://destinationtalent.com.au/job-board-report.html" rel="nofollow">http://destinationtalent.com.au/job-board-report.html</a> .  Sure many job boards go ‘belly up’, but that’s more to do with a company’s business practices and harsh economic conditions than an inherent flaw of the job board model. </p>
<p>Having said that, I am a firm believer that social media is disruptive to the status quo and will play an increasing role in recruitment. The thing with social media is, you cannot buy ‘attention’ or ‘traffic’, as easily as you can do with job boards. Key ingredients for effectively using social media &#8211; authenticity, community, collaboration, and transparency are still almost non-existent in most companies.  It is also time intensive, and requires a significant cultural shift within companies. Done well (geoffjennings.com is a case) it can pay huge dividends. However, for every company who excelled in using social media there are hundreds who aren’t. </p>
<p>On the other hand, social media has opened up a whole new world for job seekers to brand themselves and seek employment; a group that has not been entirely well served by job boards. I believe that there will always be employers who are willing to buy ‘candidate traffic’ at an attractive price. If job boards have anything to worry about, it’s retaining the attention and trust of job seekers who are suddenly rich with options.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Turnbull - CEO nt3 - CV Database</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Turnbull - CEO nt3 - CV Database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one currently looking at alternative Employment wants to have their current Employer, stumble across their Profile, with pictures, networks and video attached to help their boss identify you easily.

This in not such a big issue if you are currently unemployed, but the prime example of the impression an Employer may get by finding you on Social Networks was pointed out nicely by Stan on the nt3 Myspace Page.

I set my Myspace Page up ages ago....and as a new business owner, trying to navigate the Trends of Social Media....I just wanted to spread the word about nt3 to as many people as possible....so I accepted friend requests from everyone and I will continue to do so.....(Except Thomas Shaw)

So if you are a Job Hunter and If you are Socially Networked....and wanted to let others know you are on the hunt, and they visit your pages and see that you are networked with unlikely characters - (Possibly not you intention, but you are open to scrutiny on Social Networks....) You may be creating the wrong impression and as a result, miss opportunities that pass you by.....  

So how do Job Seekers, approach Recruiters &amp;  Employers that may not be advertising (And trying to cut costs themselves) without going to a huge amount of effort? 

How do Recruiters &amp; Employers Approach Job Seekers that they may not find by advertising?

It makes scene to have a facility available for you to promote you skills (FREE) without running the risk of being tripped up by your networks.....and offers you a professionally formatted CV to take with you fro free for your efforts.

I know CV writing professionals that charge Job Hunters up to $350.00 to do you up a nicely presented CV......ans some I have seen are not even as good as what Job Seekers get on www.nt3.com.au for free!!!

Some very savvy Recruiters are using www.nt3.com.au to match candidate skills to their clients needs. They identify the skills of the candidate, print of or send the restricted version of the Job Seekers Profile to the Employers...and get the thumbs up and interest in the Job Seeker skills before they pay to release the Job Seekers Details......Even before they need to go and spend money on a Job Ad! (But that is also free on nt3)

Its a no brainer if you are a Recruiter or HR Team Member....

I invite some of you to Register on nt3 and have a look around and provide feedback in this forum. I can delete you info from the system at your request after your evaluation.....

Please bare in mind that we are currently undergoing some new Development to change the candidate registration process to make it faster and less time consuming.....

We are also integrating JobAdder &amp; Adlogic to provide Job Seekers with more Job Postings to apply to.....

I wont say to much more at this stage...but the service will be much better and even more advanced in search capability  in a month or so. (Details will be released on completion)

Here is some blag on ID Theft and why nt3 is a smart choice if you are a Job Hunter. 
http://www.nt3.com.au/recruitment-training-australia/docs/nt3%20-%20Don%27t%20Risk%20Identity%20Theft%20-%20Use%20an%20nt3%20Profile.pdf?goback=.hom

I am not saying that nt3 is the only alternative for job Seekers.....and they should not use other means to find work....but it is a great way to promote your skills, directly to the Recruiters &amp; Employers, who are not getting hit with upfront costs to find you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one currently looking at alternative Employment wants to have their current Employer, stumble across their Profile, with pictures, networks and video attached to help their boss identify you easily.</p>
<p>This in not such a big issue if you are currently unemployed, but the prime example of the impression an Employer may get by finding you on Social Networks was pointed out nicely by Stan on the nt3 Myspace Page.</p>
<p>I set my Myspace Page up ages ago&#8230;.and as a new business owner, trying to navigate the Trends of Social Media&#8230;.I just wanted to spread the word about nt3 to as many people as possible&#8230;.so I accepted friend requests from everyone and I will continue to do so&#8230;..(Except Thomas Shaw)</p>
<p>So if you are a Job Hunter and If you are Socially Networked&#8230;.and wanted to let others know you are on the hunt, and they visit your pages and see that you are networked with unlikely characters &#8211; (Possibly not you intention, but you are open to scrutiny on Social Networks&#8230;.) You may be creating the wrong impression and as a result, miss opportunities that pass you by&#8230;..  </p>
<p>So how do Job Seekers, approach Recruiters &amp;  Employers that may not be advertising (And trying to cut costs themselves) without going to a huge amount of effort? </p>
<p>How do Recruiters &amp; Employers Approach Job Seekers that they may not find by advertising?</p>
<p>It makes scene to have a facility available for you to promote you skills (FREE) without running the risk of being tripped up by your networks&#8230;..and offers you a professionally formatted CV to take with you fro free for your efforts.</p>
<p>I know CV writing professionals that charge Job Hunters up to $350.00 to do you up a nicely presented CV&#8230;&#8230;ans some I have seen are not even as good as what Job Seekers get on <a href="http://www.nt3.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.nt3.com.au</a> for free!!!</p>
<p>Some very savvy Recruiters are using <a href="http://www.nt3.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.nt3.com.au</a> to match candidate skills to their clients needs. They identify the skills of the candidate, print of or send the restricted version of the Job Seekers Profile to the Employers&#8230;and get the thumbs up and interest in the Job Seeker skills before they pay to release the Job Seekers Details&#8230;&#8230;Even before they need to go and spend money on a Job Ad! (But that is also free on nt3)</p>
<p>Its a no brainer if you are a Recruiter or HR Team Member&#8230;.</p>
<p>I invite some of you to Register on nt3 and have a look around and provide feedback in this forum. I can delete you info from the system at your request after your evaluation&#8230;..</p>
<p>Please bare in mind that we are currently undergoing some new Development to change the candidate registration process to make it faster and less time consuming&#8230;..</p>
<p>We are also integrating JobAdder &amp; Adlogic to provide Job Seekers with more Job Postings to apply to&#8230;..</p>
<p>I wont say to much more at this stage&#8230;but the service will be much better and even more advanced in search capability  in a month or so. (Details will be released on completion)</p>
<p>Here is some blag on ID Theft and why nt3 is a smart choice if you are a Job Hunter.<br />
<a href="http://www.nt3.com.au/recruitment-training-australia/docs/nt3%20-%20Don%27t%20Risk%20Identity%20Theft%20-%20Use%20an%20nt3%20Profile.pdf?goback=.hom" rel="nofollow">http://www.nt3.com.au/recruitment-training-australia/docs/nt3%20-%20Don%27t%20Risk%20Identity%20Theft%20-%20Use%20an%20nt3%20Profile.pdf?goback=.hom</a></p>
<p>I am not saying that nt3 is the only alternative for job Seekers&#8230;..and they should not use other means to find work&#8230;.but it is a great way to promote your skills, directly to the Recruiters &amp; Employers, who are not getting hit with upfront costs to find you!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Turnbull - CEO nt3 - CV Database</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Turnbull - CEO nt3 - CV Database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stan

I would say, spamming crap  is the biggest issue with Social Networking Sites over exclusive Job Hunting Sites...

This is the whole point of having Destination Sites....

I would suggest your frustration are with www.myspace.com and not with the www.nt3.com.au service offering.

Your are open to the whims of others that want to attach themselves to your page.

Thats why we built a stand alone service so people would not be subjected to that kind of crap.

Do you have any doubt&#039;s about the actual nt3 service, or do you just want to be noticed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stan</p>
<p>I would say, spamming crap  is the biggest issue with Social Networking Sites over exclusive Job Hunting Sites&#8230;</p>
<p>This is the whole point of having Destination Sites&#8230;.</p>
<p>I would suggest your frustration are with <a href="http://www.myspace.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com</a> and not with the <a href="http://www.nt3.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.nt3.com.au</a> service offering.</p>
<p>Your are open to the whims of others that want to attach themselves to your page.</p>
<p>Thats why we built a stand alone service so people would not be subjected to that kind of crap.</p>
<p>Do you have any doubt&#8217;s about the actual nt3 service, or do you just want to be noticed?</p>
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